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    Enhancement Best in Slot List for Tier 15

    Below is going to be some information that has been gathered and is in the works of being finalized for the Enhancement Best in Slot list for T15! This gear set has been optimized for races without a hit or expertise bonus - if you're an orc wielding axes/fist weapons or a dwarf wielding maces, you may need to slightly alter your gear selection or reforging paths.

    Best in Slot list so far:

    Head
    Gaze of Gara'jal (i541)
    Gems: Capacitive Primal Diamond, +320 Haste
    Reforge: Crit -> Mastery

    Neck
    Quadra-Head Brooch (i541)
    Gems: +320 Haste
    Reforge: Hit -> Haste

    Shoulders
    Spaulders of the Witchdoctor (i535)
    Gems: +80 Agility +160 Haste, +320 Haste
    Reforge: Hit -> Haste

    Back
    Grey Wind Mistcloak (i541)
    Gems: +320 Haste
    Reforge: Crit -> Mastery

    Chest
    Cuirass of the Witchdoctor (i535)
    Gems: +80 Agility +160 Haste, +320 Haste, +160 Haste +160 Hit
    Reforge: Expertise -> Haste

    Wrists
    Beady-Eye Bracers (Haste) (i541)
    Gems: +320 Haste
    Reforge: (none)

    Hands
    Grips of the Witchdoctor (i535)
    Gems: +80 Agility +160 Haste
    Reforge: Expertise -> Haste

    Waist
    Jingling Fetishgirdle (i541)
    Gems: +160 Haste +160 Hit, +160 Haste +160 Hit, +320 Haste
    Reforge: (none)

    Legs
    Legguards of the Witchdoctor (i535)
    Gems: +320 Haste, +160 Haste +160 Hit
    Reforge: (none)

    Feet
    Treads of Sanguine Volley (i541)
    Gems: +320 Haste, +160 Haste +160 Hit
    Reforge: Crit -> Haste

    Finger 1
    Gore-Soaked Gear (i541)
    Gems: +320 Haste
    Reforge: Crit -> Mastery

    Finger 2
    Ra-den's Swift Seal (i541)
    Gems: +160 Haste +160 Hit
    Reforge: Hit -> Mastery

    Trinket 1
    Renataki's Soul Charm (i541)
    Reforge: Expertise -> Haste

    Trinket 2
    Bad Juju (i541)
    Reforge: Mastery -> Haste

    Weapon 1
    Hand of the Dark Animus (i541)
    Gems: +80 Agility +160 Haste, +320 Haste
    Reforge: (none)

    Weapon 2
    Wu-Lai, Bladed Fan of the Consorts (i541)
    Gems: +80 Agility +160 Haste, +320 Haste
    Reforge: Crit -> Hit

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    Stats Total (not including +3000 mastery raid buff)

    2559 Hit Rating
    2586 Expertise Rating
    15916 Haste Rating
    6775 Mastery Rating
    4540 Crit Rating

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    Hope you all enjoy what has been collected so far! Be sure to check back as this thread should be updated rather frequently with new additions and changes.
    Last edited by Purge; 24-04-2013 at 03:01 PM.

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    CHANGELOG:

    - Deleted the Talisman of Living Poison off of the Exception List. 2/15/2013 ~ Platform
    - Deleted the Links of the Disintegrator off of the Exception List. 2/15/2013 ~ Platform
    - Deleted the Bracers of Mutagenic Fervor off of the Exception List. 2/15/2013 ~ Platform
    - Added Simcraft results for theoretical Best in Slot profile. 2/15/2013 ~ Platform
    - Added Simcraft results for theoretical Best in Slot profile using Talisman of Bloodlust and Bad Juju. 2/15/2013 ~ Platform
    - Changed Best in Slot profile to not include Bottle of Infinite Stars or Vicious Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault and to instead replace them with Talisman of Bloodlust and Bad Juju. 2/15/2013 ~Platform
    - Updated the orc reforge list. 2/15/2013 ~ Purge
    - Removed non-orc reforge list because it was too outdated. 2/15/2013 ~Purge
    - Reforged Bad Juju to haste, because haste is good. 2/15/2013 ~ Purge
    - Updated latest SimC output. 2/16/2013 ~Purge
    - Updated reforging + latest SimC output. Using the legendary meta gem + herbalism, now. 2/16/2013 ~ Purge
    - Changed wrist slot to Beady-Eye Bracers of the Zephyr (stats unconfirmed). 3/3/2013 ~ Purge
    - Updated BiS list to be consistent with latest SimC profile. 4/24/2013 ~ Purge
    Last edited by Purge; 24-04-2013 at 03:01 PM.

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    So you're suggesting we're still looking at Mastery>Haste even with AS/PE? Or is this Mastery=Haste? ...or is it simply a case of not needing to reforge up to meet ratings caps and breaking even by circumstance?

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    Right now we're actually looking at getting A LOT more haste than normal. The previous reforge sets were done with two trinkets that were not based on PPM. As a class that already scales very well with haste, these trinkets become stronger for us because of it--enough to warrant more Haste on our gear. We're most likely going to be looking at next tier socketing yellow sockets with +320 haste gems as well.

    There were sim results done last night, and I know Purge had a whole set for all of the talent combinations running its tests really early in the morning--which should be up to date/on this page very soon. Talisman and Bad Juju are going to end up (Until further notice, very confident from this point on though) being our best in slot trinkets.

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    Yeah I had assumed haste would be the go-to stat, but the gear/reforge selection didn't seem to reflect that when I questioned - it had mastery up by a fair margin. Looks better now.

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    Yeah I tried to clarify that by putting the disclaimer above the reforge sets to show which trinkets were used to kinda give a reason as to why they were mastery heavy. There's much more haste on the build with Juju and Talisman.

    EDIT: Just now noticed Purge edited the reforge lists/sets.

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    I got bored so looked up the bosses all this stuff drops from.

    Gaze of Gara'jal - Helmet - Council of Elders
    Bad Juju - Trinket 2 - Council of Elders
    Grips of the Witchdoctor - Gloves - Council of Elders
    Beady-Eye Bracers - Wrists - Tortos
    Quadra-Head Brooch - Neck - Megaera
    Legguards of the Witchdoctor - Legs - Ji-Kun
    Bracers of Mutagenic Fervor - Wrists - Primordius
    Talisman of Bloodlust - Trinket 1 - Primordius
    Gore-Soaked Gear - Ring 1 - Dark Animus
    Cuirass of the Witchdoctor - Chest - Dark Animus
    Spaulders of the Witchdoctor - Shoulders - Iron Qon
    Wu-Lai, Bladed Fan of the Consorts - Weapon x2 - Twin Consorts
    Treads of Sanguine Volley - Boots - Ra-den*
    Grey Wind Mistcloak - Back - Ra-den*
    Jingling Fetishgirdle - Waist - Ra-den*
    Ra-den's Swift Seal - Ring 2 - Ra-den*

    * denotes Heroic Thunderforged (and/or possibly Heroic-only)

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    Thanks Rude!

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    I used Rawr before MoP to self-determine upgrade paths and potential BiS based on availability. Obviously, while Heroic Thunderforged items are technically BiS they're out of reach of most players. What would you recommend we can use to create our own list?

    I've taken to using Wowreforge and manually inputting stats of corresponding gear choices but that's a bit tedious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeGuy View Post
    I've taken to using Wowreforge and manually inputting stats of corresponding gear choices but that's a bit tedious.
    That's what I'm doing.

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    So what made you guys switch the trinkets, rather then bottle and the valor one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acog View Post
    So what made you guys switch the trinkets, rather then bottle and the valor one?
    I could be wrong, but I believe it was the valor trinket/H Bottle based on the PPM mechanics of Feral druids. Apparently, they're worse for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acog View Post
    So what made you guys switch the trinkets, rather then bottle and the valor one?
    Sims we were looking at originally were feral, and apparently RPPM is a lot better for us than it is for them.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1086121/simc...360915128.html

    vs.

    http://dread-gaming.com/simc/enh_mop_745.html (older sim)

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    Hi

    Im not an expert in this so i have to ask, the primary reason of stacking haste above mastery, is because of the legendary metagem, Bad Juju and Talisman of Bloodlust and the way haste interact with those(RPPM)? Im not an heroic raider but is it safe to say this also will be the case for normal and maybe the lfr version trinkets + the legendary metagem.

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    Does this list include the changes to the Rune of Re-origination? The was lots of grumblings about how it was good with the change but theorycrafting has become very sparse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrastorm View Post
    Hi

    Im not an expert in this so i have to ask, the primary reason of stacking haste above mastery, is because of the legendary metagem, Bad Juju and Talisman of Bloodlust and the way haste interact with those(RPPM)? Im not an heroic raider but is it safe to say this also will be the case for normal and maybe the lfr version trinkets + the legendary metagem.

    Yes the PPM works with haste, Also the highest siming talent selection (PE) is also haste friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryethe View Post
    Does this list include the changes to the Rune of Re-origination? The was lots of grumblings about how it was good with the change but theorycrafting has become very sparse.
    When they first announced the buff to re-origination (stats converted at a 1:2 ratio), I retested it and it still wasn't anything special (I think it was 3-4k below either of the current trinkets). I haven't retested it since they announced the proc rate scales based on item level, but I don't expect it to be something we're going to be interested in even with that.

    For what it's worth, it seems to be very good for feral druids.

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    Out of curiosity, how come you're choosing head as the current non-set slot?

    Looking at this post it suggests that there are more stats to gain from using the legs as non-set.

    If I've missed something, please disregard this message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaifon View Post
    Out of curiosity, how come you're choosing head as the current non-set slot?

    Looking at this post it suggests that there are more stats to gain from using the legs as non-set.

    If I've missed something, please disregard this message.
    The tier helm has over 1000 hit rating on it, and the current profile is already 79 hit rating over the cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purge View Post
    The tier helm has over 1000 hit rating on it, and the current profile is already 79 hit rating over the cap.
    Ah, I see.

    Thanks.

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